Monday, March 31, 2025

I Asked Grok This Mac Hardware-Specific Question

I asked Grok, on X.com, this Mac hardware-specific question:


"On the late 2013 mac pro, are some of the thunderbolt ports more video display specific, like the last two ports that are on Thunderbolt Bus 0?"


…and this is the AI response that I received:


"On the Late 2013 Mac Pro, the Thunderbolt ports are not inherently "more video display specific" based solely on their position or the Thunderbolt bus they’re assigned to. However, their configuration and the way they share bandwidth can influence how they’re best used for video displays or other high-bandwidth tasks.


The Late 2013 Mac Pro has six Thunderbolt 2 ports, organized across three separate Thunderbolt buses:

  • Thunderbolt Bus 0: Controls the bottom two Thunderbolt ports (ports 5 and 6) and the HDMI port.

  • Thunderbolt Bus 1: Controls the top-left and middle-left Thunderbolt ports (ports 1 and 3).

  • Thunderbolt Bus 2: Controls the top-right and middle-right Thunderbolt ports (ports 2 and 4).

Each bus has its own dedicated bandwidth (up to 20 Gbps with Thunderbolt 2), meaning the ports on a given bus share that bandwidth, but the buses don’t compete with each other. The key detail for video displays is that the HDMI port shares Thunderbolt Bus 0 with the bottom two Thunderbolt ports (ports 5 and 6). Since video output—whether through Thunderbolt or HDMI—relies on the Mac Pro’s GPU, and the HDMI port is tied to Bus 0, this bus can become a bottleneck if you’re using an HDMI display alongside Thunderbolt devices on ports 5 or 6.


For example, if you connect a high-resolution display (like a 4K monitor) via HDMI, it will consume a significant portion of Bus 0’s bandwidth. Adding a Thunderbolt display or another high-bandwidth device (like a storage array) to ports 5 or 6 could lead to reduced performance for either the display or the device, as they’d be sharing that 20 Gbps limit. In contrast, the ports on Bus 1 (ports 1 and 3) and Bus 2 (ports 2 and 4) are free from this HDMI-related contention, making them potentially better suited for additional displays or devices if you’re already using HDMI.


That said, all six Thunderbolt ports are fully capable of driving Thunderbolt displays or other video outputs (via adapters like Thunderbolt to DisplayPort or HDMI), as the GPU routes display signals to any of these ports. Apple’s design supports up to six Thunderbolt displays across these ports, with a maximum of two displays per bus recommended to avoid bandwidth saturation. The distinction with Bus 0 arises only because of the HDMI port’s presence, not because ports 5 and 6 are inherently more "video display specific."


So, to your question: the last two ports (ports 5 and 6 on Thunderbolt Bus 0) aren’t more video-specific by design, but their shared bus with the HDMI port means they’re more likely to be affected by video-related bandwidth demands if you’re using HDMI output. If you’re prioritizing video displays and using HDMI, you might prefer to connect Thunderbolt displays to ports on Bus 1 or Bus 2 to avoid overloading Bus 0. Conversely, if you’re not using HDMI, ports 5 and 6 are just as capable for video as any other port. It’s more about managing bandwidth across the buses than any port being specialized for video."




Wednesday, March 12, 2025

I Like Seeing Graphic Designers Design With Just Type or Mostly Type

I borrowed this graphic from a post by Lorinda Frankenberry. (I borrowed this graphic from a post by Lorinda Frankenberry.)




Saturday, March 09, 2013

You Can Use A Serial ATA Cable, With Power Adapter, To Convert Your Pre 2009 Mac Pro From The Internal IDE Optical Drive Interface To The Internal Serial ATA Optical Drive Interface

You can use a Serial ATA Cable, with Power Adapter, to convert your pre 2009 Mac Pro from the internal IDE optical drive interface to the internal Serial ATA optical drive interface, which will allow you to use any SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive.  This transition is necessary when it comes time to replace your IDE internal optical drive in your pre 2009 Mac Pro because all of the new IDE optical drives are completely depleted from the marketplace.

If you own a 2009-2012 Mac Pro, your computer is already using the Serial ATA optical drive interface and you can replace your drive with a new SATA Internal DVD+/-RW Drive without needing to install a Serial ATA Cable, with Power Adapter.

Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Internal IDE Replacement DVD-R/CD-R Drives Completely Removed From The Marketplace

It looks like new internal IDE replacement DVD-RW/CD-RW drives have been completely removed from the marketplace. Now, the only internal DVD-RW/CD-RW drives that OWC sells, that have IDE compatibility, is the Internal Blu-ray/DVD/CD Writer and it will cost me $87 instead of $25.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/LG/WH14NS40MP/
Refurbished Blu-ray Players, for home theater, are now as affordable as cheap DVD players and an internal optical drive replacement on my 2007 Mac Pro will force me to get a DVD/CD/Writer that also reads and writes with Blu-ray disks.
It looks like the Blu-ray transition is coming full-circle.
If you have a 2009-2010 Mac Pro, there are still plenty of new SATA DVD-RW/CD-RW drives in the $25 range. 
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/LG/GH24NS95/
Just the 2006-2008 Mac Pros have few optical drive options because of the antiquated IDE interface in the optical drive bays.
My 2007 Mac Pro is starting to look old because it is. ;-)
Addendum: Larry from OWC, sent me this email note and URL:
This kit:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Pioneer/BDC207DBKMP/
gets you Blu-Ray Reader + DVDRW/DL CDRW multi for $55 if you don't need to write Blu-Ray.

Thursday, March 08, 2012

New Apple iPad Kicks PC Industry
While It's Down
www.pcworld.com

Tablets, and the iPad in particular, are part of the perfect storm hitting top PC makers; can Ultrabooks boost the competition?



Monday, December 05, 2011

My Mac Pro's Radeon X1900 XT Is Retired To My Computer Grave Yard

My Mac Pro's Radeon X1900 XT is retired to my computer grave yard, in my basement, but going back to the OEM Apple nVidia GeForce 7300 GT, which shipped with my Mac Pro, brought some encouraging results.

When I first got the 2007 Mac Pro, in 2009, I was running it in Mac OS 10.4.4.11 Tiger and Photoshop CS4 (11.0.0) would disable Open GL Rendering when it detected the stock nVidia GeForce 7300 GT card, which was on Adobe's list of unsupported graphics GPUs. So, I purchased a refurbished Apple Radeon X1900 XT. This card allowed Photoshop CS4 and Bridge CS4 to enable Open GL Rendering. Over the last year, the Radeon X1900 XT graphics card has been creating stripes on my screen when it is running hot and sometimes the dual displays would just shut off while I was working. Also, the computer was doing hardware freezes about once a day. This morning the Mac Pro shut down it's dual displays, while I was working, and I had to do another cold shut off in order to restart. I then manually shut the computer down and did a manual boot-up so that Snow Leopard would employ disk maintenance.

I shut the computer off and pulled the Radeon X1900 XT card and re-inserted the OEM Apple nVidia GeForce 7300 GT card. Now I'm running Mac OS 10.6.8 Snow Leopard with Photoshop CS4 (11.0.2) instead of Photoshop CS4 (11.0.0).

Now, the updated Photoshop CS4 under the newer OS, is enabling Open GL Rendering instead of disabling it. This graphics card's hardware limitation is now fixed so, I see no reason to buy the ATI Radeon HD 5770 Graphics Upgrade Kit for my Mac Pro:

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Apple/6615718/

Some who have purchased the Apple ATI Radeon HD 5770 say they still got the striping on their display when the Radeon HD 5770 card was running hot, just like with the Radeon X1900 XT.

So far, the OEM Apple nVidia GeForce 7300 GT is working fine and I'm not getting any striping on my displays with no display shut-offs or hardware freezes.

I'm glad to have Adobe's Open GL Rendering enabled with an OEM graphics GPU that runs cool and requires no imbedded cooling fan. Apples OEM nVidia GeForce 7300 GT, for the Mac Pro, is now actually on Adobe's updated list of supported GPUs for Open GL Rendering under Photoshop CS4, so why is it supported now? Is that just one of the benefits of the Photoshop CS4 11.0.2 update? It turns out that the card is supported by Adobe's Open GL Rendering in some limited ways as long as my Mac Pro is running an OS that is later than Mac OS 10.4.4.11 Tiger, like Leopard or Snow Leopard.

Maybe, some day, I will still need to upgrade to the ATI Radeon HD 5770 Graphics Upgrade Kit for my Mac Pro, especially if I upgrade to Photoshop CS5, because the old Radeon X1900 XT and the old nVidia GeForce 7300 GT is not supported in Photoshop CS5's OpenGL Rendering engine but the Radeon HD 5770 is.

The main net benefit of going back to the stock OEM Apple nVidia GeForce 7300 GTis that my Mac Pro is now "rock solid" and stable, running for weeks and months without freezing up or crashing.